48th Paddy Pallin 6 hour

G’day rogainers,

Thanks to everyone who participated in the Paddy Pallin Rogaine at Belanglo!  We were treated to some really nice weather (though it could have been a bit warmer at the finish!) and it sounds like most people had fun out there.  I saw plenty of smiling faces at the finish.  We’d be really interested to hear your thoughts and feedback about the event, or you can use this space to swap stories with other teams, or however you like – but keep it clean and related to rogaining – thanks 🙂

Thanks again to all the volunteers (you can find all their names listed on the volunteer page), plus State Forests and other landholders, our sponsor Paddy Pallin, caterers 1st Waitara Scouts, safety crew BWRS and new event adminstrators Emma and Neal!


11 Replies to “48th Paddy Pallin 6 hour”

  1. Michael and team

    Congratulations on a great event with a big crowd, fine weather and excellent course. Bit slippery underfoot but the clear skies and great visibility were the benefits of all the rain. Was good to get beyond the pine forest (or remains of it in some parts) with the northern checkpoints the highlights. Glad we avoided the tiger country to the west which perhaps needed a couple more accessible high pointers to tempt the unwary. Would have liked to have seen at least one water drop but in the conditions on the day turned out to not be required. Lot of solid scores – perhaps the Paddy Pallin event with the most depth of competition to date?

  2. – one way exit shown on on-line map prior to event made no sense as it did not show where it went to, except off the paper

    – this was the least scrubbiest rogaine I have ever attended. My rogaining partner and I only did the western section, we found our way to every control (have blundered around, then given up on some controls at prior events).

    – the 100-pointer just NW of the hash house was very generously placed, judging by the number of people there. And we got another with relative ease as well. Previously we were scratched and irritable on getting to a rare 90-pointer!

    – just what are the tactics of the winners? No eating allowed? Pain is gain?

  3. This was an enjoyable course. For novice and intermediate rogainers, the idea of not-so-accurate maps was a bit of concern, leaving the area to the east of the hash as the most likely route choice. I found the lack of other viable alternatives somewhat disappointing. That said, there was some variety within that area as to where to go. The check points there were well spaced and there was a variety of easy picks off the road and others requiring more navigation skills. Surprisingly for a paddy pallin, I didn’t feel the course was crowded! Thanks to the organisers.

  4. Thanks for your comments so far.

    To follow up Gary’s question, I’ve just dropped a line to the members of the overall top 5 teams to encourage them to share their route choices and some wisdom about their tactics… stay tuned!

    Thanks Andrew for the route gadget and sharing your own route. Looks like you guys stuck to the flatter areas and picked up a good number of points without too many hills.

  5. Hi
    I ran with Dave Baldwin. My impressions?

    I came into the race a week after the geoquest adventure race in nambucca. So a bit weary of mind and body + 6 hours with Baldy! My race strategy was to stay with him. The terrain was a bugger for that purpose – lots of deep drops and rock scrambles followed by mad trail runs. The hamstrings didn’t know what was going on.

    We pretty much kept an even pace the whole way. Cut across the pine forest where it was worth it. Stuffed up the end a bit with some sucker controls just east of hh. Meant we were late 6 mins which brought us back under 2000 points.

    How did we win? It helps to have Dave Baldwin on your team.

  6. Thanks for a great rogaine – and for picking the best weather day that week!

    Brad and I agreed before heading out that the overall clustering of points in the pines and north of that area were worthwhile. We planned to see how fast we could move in the regular bush first so we could judge and time our return to the HH. Thus we headed south to 30, 40 and 50 first, deciding then that we probably wouldn’t be trying to cross longacre creek on the way back. Running even-paced, we both had our relative flat periods, but managed to adjust planning quickly and with general agreement when required. Short snack stops 3-5 mins before hunger or cramps hit worked well. I was particularly interested in #33 – no defined feature! Is that allowed?, I wondered. And to see the backpacker memorial too – very sad. I’ll add our route to route gadget. Cheers.

  7. I worked behind the desk at the event but collected in some of the flags in the days after. Number 33, the “No defined feature” checkpoint, was one of these. I thought at the time that this is not allowed so Mark Freeman’s question got me reading what the regulations do say.

    Neither the ARA Technical Regulations or the Rod Costigan book “Organising a Rogaine” seem to say specificaly that a checkpoint has to be on a feature. It is one of those things “that goes without saying”. All through the many pages about setting a checkpoint, the Costigan book talks about “the feature” at which the control is set. Number 33 could have been made almost legal by using offset bearings. You make the checkpoint the road junction, and the description becomes “The road junction, 318 degrees/80m”. The problem remaining would be the distance of 80m. Cut this back to 40m and it would be acceptable. Using offset bearings seems to have become a lost art.

    A few other checkpoints were offset, the value being given in the notes. Number 24 could have been placed further from the track junction and so reduce the risk of theft.

    Other controls I’d like to hear what others thought of are 57 and 103.

  8. Unfortunately we took quite a while to find #57 (along with two other teams who were searching for it at the same time), although I think some teams found it easily. We ran at what we thought was the correct angle from the road (based on our compas readings) and ended up nowhere near the pot (but we aren’t great navigators).

    I didn’t make it to #103, but I’d imagine quite a few people found #82 difficult? (fortunately this time we went straight to it from the road).

    Probably our biggest issue was #53; we ended following an un-mapped road (there was some tape over the entrance to the road we’d meant to be on and I thought it may have been out of bounds). We worked out where we were eventually but lost a fair bit of time on it. All as expected and it didn’t take away from the fun!

    We are looking forward to the next one! And have no complaints at all, I thought it was very well organised with great choice of pot locations and it all went together perfectly.

    By the way, great choice in weather! 🙂

  9. We have put our route on routegadget so you can see where Lisa and I went. We got all the controls on the S, then E then N side of the course and were heading over W when the time ran out leaving us a long flat road run back through 37, 21 and 22 home.

    Here’s a quick description of our route:
    Started easily to 20. A nice easy start to stop mistakes on the start line like last year. Went a little too far down the gully for 40 but only lost a minute or so fixing it up. Others were straight forward to 82 which needed some care. Cut most of the corners in the pine forest and took care at 57. A careful bearing and walking a little distance apart meant we found it no problems. Again no problems at 103, some careful map reading on the fire trail to make sure we left the road at the right spot and the control was only a few minutes in.

    We went a little W coming out of 55 which put us in some very big cliffs, then we climbed all the way up the road and had to descend back down again as 102 was in the bottom of the gully. Should have just gone up the flat creek to get it.

    The only control we had a problem with was 45. It was described as The spur, 80m from the road. But the spurs at that location do not really line up with the map and the control as marked on the map is right on the road so we lost a few minutes working out exactly direction the 80m was meant to be in. We left that control with about 20 minutes left so we had to run pretty hard to get back on time.

    Overall a great event and good fun.

  10. Hi everyone,

    I thought it was worth a quick reply to relate some feedback from our flag collector Phil, because he commented on control 45 which Glen (above) mentioned as well:

    Phil commented that “something was wrong with 45 – the description should have read “A spur”, or the circle should have been in a different position on the map.” Michael Watts said that “the road was E of where it was shown on the map, the bend in the road was less sharp than indicated and it started further up the hill, by about 50m than was shown”. He acknowledged that the description should have been modified, including a note about the position of the road.

    We’re all always learning with every event we do, and arguably the people who learn the most are those who put their navigation to the test of setting, vetting, flag hanging and collecting!

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